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What did you just say? On data markup

posted: May 25, 2004 6:28:57 PM

I think Mark Nottingham's Informational Properties of Infosets is an important piece for anyone struggling with designing information for use in XML and / or RDF. Very clearly put!

About a year ago, I tried to touch on some of the same points in my RDF Fever post, but, looking back on it, I didn't say anything very clearly.

I'm working pretty hard these days trying to avoid XML (in the iCite net prototype). Of course, the iCite net works with XML, but I've decided that it's easier to design it as not-XML than as either XML or not (and it really didn't work being designed as XML).

SGML, XML, and I have a lot of history together at this point, and the thing I love and think is super great about these markup languages is mixed markup ~~content~~. But, I've decided that all claims that one has an XML document are false if there is no mixed markup (and especially if there is no option of mixed markup).

If you have an XML file with no mixed markup, you have a data file, not a document. That data file is some kind of data bag / data tree / data fish thing, whatever, ya know? But it ain't no document, and I ain't going to read it like it is one.

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posted: Oct 16, 2004 11:03:30 PM
title: Good recent writings on data

I mention Mark Nottingham's three posts on data modeling, all referenced from his XML Infoset, RDF and Data Modelling, which, I think, are a good perspective coming from (I assume) more the RDF / XML perspective than from RDBMS.

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