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RSS 2 enclosures and the oral tradition

posted: Oct 6, 2004 8:46:37 PM

PodCasting is in season, and lots of folks are now posting audio to their blogs and including links to the audio in RSS 2 enclosures. For a while now, I myself have been posting an RSS 2 enclosure laden file as one way to make available the music on Wrong Notes, my music blog.

The "oral tradition" to which I refer is not, as you may think, that of bloggers posting audio. Rather, it is the process by which RSS 2 enclosures are coming into wider use.

People are just building software that does stuff with enclosures, and telling each other about it. And, somewhere in there, through word of mouth, some kind of agreement about what enclosures mean is getting worked out.

On Wrong Notes, I "enclose" an m3u file, which is a mp3 playlist. I'm hoping that by posting about this here, (though comments) I'll either find out that this approach works as part of the podCasting interaction, or that it doesn't.

The major reason I enclose m3u is that I consider my m3u URLs permalinks, but not my mp3 URLs (because of the expense of hosting mp3 files, I may move them in the future). And, I believe that enclosure URLs should be permalink-worthy, when possible.

But, the other good reason to use m3u is to reference a playlist, which is a nice / common way to reference a list of mp3s.

So, here is where some interesting issues come up: is RSS a playlist format? Can a single RSS item (a blog post) contain multiple enclosures in effect, acting itself as a playlist?

I like that XSPF is addressing playlist issues directly, rather than in the context of the legacy of RSS. But, for now, with podCasting / RSS 2.0 happening the way it is, I'm curious to see if my little m3u issue will be addressed, or not.

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posted: Oct 11, 2004 7:16:38 PM
title: PodVertising and PodSpamming

One thing really cromaggy about podCasting is that it pulls (for example) blog posts back out of hypertext and into linear audio that must be "read" from start to finish. People who listen to audio blog posts are in a somewhat more captive situation

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posted: Dec 26, 2004 9:01:18 PM
title: Podcast-talk, theme songs, and microcontent

A podcast produced as segments, released as separate mp3 files, and joined by a playlist, would continue the microcontent tradition of blog posts. When listening, folks could more or less "skim" to the parts that are of most interest.

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